John McDermott @mcdradio

John McDermott @mcdradio

John is VP Programming for DGital Media and handles the comedy stations for Slacker Radio. Previously, VP Comedy & Entertainment for SiriusXM and has been in the media for 22 years.

Taking a look at what time of day people are listening

Nilsen national radio listening

One of the biggest influencers on my career was Jeremy Coleman (presently SVP of the Howard Stern channels) who taught me a lot of moves.  One of my favorited that I borrowed was drawing the poor man’s version of the graph above.

What I do (borrowed from Jeremy) is I draw a typical camel-back graph of listening with peaks in morning drive and afternoon drive…then draw the same graph over it shifted three hours to the right for Pacific time.  It goes over well in the college class and in presentations.

What happens when you do that is you realize middays are just as valuable at the national level as east coast morning drive is.  You get east coast middays plus Pacific morning drive and you get a nice bump.

The Nielsen graph above normalizes for timezones, but it is still interesting to me how flat the day is once you get out of the 7am hour.  Also eye-catching is how early the cliff starts – it looks more like 5:30pm than say 6:30pm.

One of the things I always felt about morning drive radio, especially shows that start at 5am, is that the best stuff gets wasted when fewer people are listening.  You have hosts that can’t wait to talk about the big topic so they lead with it.  Sure you can do it again at 7:40, but it’s never quite the same is it?

Conversely, morning shows are tough because to me they aren’t four hour shows, they are four one hour shows and probably even eight 30 minute shows.

Interesting stuff from Nielsen if you want to dive deeper.

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We check our phones 150 times a day?

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Interesting., although I wonder if me working consistently on a laptop for a few hours is really the same as “checking my phone.”  That being said I have been known to stare at my phone.

 

At least 50 percent of consumers have both a smartphone and a desktop, and those consumers divide their time evenly between both devices. This translates to consumers checking their phones about every 6.5 minutes, or 150 times a day.

via We check our phones how many times a day? | Digiday.

 

Maybe it’s “phone” that is misleading.  I’ve been on the internet in one way or another (this blog, email, LinkedIn, news feed) for about 2.5 hours already today – but it has been one continuous “make the rounds.”

Anyway, that phone in everyone’s hand is a valuable tool.  Make sure you are mobile friendly or you’re going to be left behind very soon.

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They don’t make ’em like that anymore

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With my newly found free time (did I mention I need a gig?) I have been diving into the Blu-Ray collection quite a bit.  I love Blu-Ray.  I get it if you don’t, but I do.  Things looks so so vivid.

I taped (I say taped because I am from the 80’s) taped Lawrence of Arabia on TMC for no particular reason.  I had heard of it and now I had time.  I knew nothing about the movie.

I got about an hour into it and was blown away.  The scene that really got me apparently is referred to as the mirage.  What got me about the seven was the use of a single cut and SILENCE.  Oh my goodness, SILENCE.  I don’t want to be an old man, but not everything needs a loud soundtrack.  (And if you watch a modern concert video, how about keeping the camera on say Bruce or McCartney rather than some fan in the crowd?).

Silence.  The man on the horse rides up, and in silence we watch that long ride and wonder who he is.

I realized I was blowing it watching it on TMC SD, so I stopped the DVR and ordered the Blu-Ray (via my beloved Amazon Prime).   The restored BD is absolutely amazing.  If you have never seen this beautiful film, stop reading and order it.

That inspired me to get Ben-Hur.  Amazon, click.

While different, it is also awesome.  Another restored version that looks great on my big screen Sony.  It even had an intermission?  Remember those?

What is truly great about these two films is NO CGI.  There is a big difference between 200 guys on camels and CGI camels.  Or an actual desert.  Or 40 horses running side by side in a chariot race.   I may watch Gladiator tonight to compare natural effects to CGI.

charlton heston

I met Heston twice.  The second time he was older and not quite as sharp but the first time was priceless.  I was coming back from the bathroom at WOR with no idea who John Gambling had on as a guest.  So I’m bopping down the hallway when I look up and my face has that stunned look of hey you’re…

“Hi, I’m Charlton Heston” and he offered me a firm handshake.

That’s it.  I have never been a star-effer.  I don’t need to be their friend or stalk them for autographs.  I have my Heston moment(s) and my memory.  That’s all I need.

Anyways, just like we aren’t all going to gather around the victrola listening to Bob Hope, we won’t see any more four hour movies with a half hour religious coda.  But Ben-Hur is fantastic, and Lawrence is better.  If you haven’t seen either, go grab them on Blu-Ray.

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Never mind 11 hours, the millennials are getting in 18

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I don’t want to turn this blog into a one trick pony, but wow would you look at that?

Pay attention to the future folks.  Last week I shared the 11 Hour Study, but let’s look at what that next generation is doing.  Look how radio is down to 1:15.   As I am typing this my kid is upstairs playing with Apple TV.  She isn’t listening to “the radio” but she is listening to music just like I did in 1983.  It’s not the desire that has changed, it is the delivery system.

She likes the Apple TV.  She just wants music.  My college kids just want music.

My daughter has access to 12,000 songs right now.  Playlists.  Customized.

Meanwhile I tried listening to a local sports station yesterday that teased a guest and then hit me with seven minutes of commercials (Seven!!!) then an update then another cluster.   Really?  Click.

Now fortunately the survey up top includes overlapping.  So my kid is probably on instagram (“browse the internet”), several chats (“social networking”) and has iTunes open in the background.  Let’s make sure we’re one of those buttons as this generation and the one in front of it ages.

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David Brenner

David Brenner

 

I am sad to hear of David Brenner’s passing.

I had the opportunity to work with David, oh I don’t know three or four times.

One of the first (maybe the first) came fairly early in my tenure at Sirius (pre-merger).  It was one of those magical days in the lobby, where cool stars would run into other cool stars.   On that particular day the late comedian Robert Schimmel and David met for the first time while waiting to go on other shows…and man they just hit it off.

They hit it off so well that we all decided if they came back the next day and just traded stories on the air.  And that’s what we did.

This was long enough ago that our brains weren’t hardwired for social media or video yet , so I don’t have an embed to share with you.  But there they were each sitting on a high stool with an old time radio mic in front of them on a tall stand.  And David and Robert got up and swapped stories about showbiz for over an hour.  What a great use of satellite radio back in the day.

David would come by, oh I dunno every two years or so (he lived in Vegas) and I would always spend time with him in the lobby.  He loved to talk about Johnny (you don’t need a last name, do you?) and the Tonight Show.  Not in an annoying way, not in a “I used to be…” way but just with reverence and excitement for the power and greatness that show had in another media age.  (That’s not a knock on Fallon, it’s a different time, and this was the 1970s when you had 5 channels, and two of them had signed off for the night.)  I think I last saw David about a year ago, maybe less, and yep we talked about Tonight.

There was a Carson Project I never quite solved during my time at SiriusXM and I would have asked David, Joan Rivers and Conan to be part of it.  Maybe Jeremy Coleman (a fellow dreamer) can throw the power of Howard behind it and solve it, or maybe I can solve it at the next gig.  Regardless, it will be sad to do it without David.

I imagine Howard will give David a good tribute on Monday, and I was happy to hear that my former comrades Ron & Fez went live last night.  I was always big on the proper tributes.  Nice job fellas.

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11 hours of electronic media a day!

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What an exciting time to be me, even if this post is coming to you from the Between Gigs Basement,

The Amazon Streaming Audio rumor is interesting.  I love Prime because I love hitting click anytime I feel like impulse buying.  If they want to give me streaming audio with it, cool!

The other rumor, this one about iTunes Radio becoming its own app, is also fun.  I will be curious to see where that one goes.

Today I played around with the iTunes Radio Top 50 Alt station and really enjoyed it.  To the point, on target and curated.  It also “tricked” me into buying about eight songs.  I run a lot and get sick of everything in my iPhone, so to get turned on to a bunch of new-to-me songs was a pleasure.  And there’s that nice and easy BUY NOW button.  This business model I get.  My “free” radio got me for like twelve bucks today.  And yet I don’t care, because I like the songs.  That’s a good product.

So there’s four quick paragraphs none of which are what I set out to write about.  I have been sitting on this one since it first showed up last Friday, but there has been so much other stuff (like that Infinite Dial study) that it has been hard to work this one in.  (Originally I was going to post twice a week so these posts see daylight, and I am already doing more because I’m excited, which is today’s theme.)

Look at the nice pretty graphic Mashable made.  ELEVEN HOURS.  Eleven.  Figure you sleep seven, so there’s six other hours for things like talking to your family and brushing your teeth.  Eleven is no joke.

The folks that watch five hours of live TV a day fascinate me.  I watch zero.  So someone else is watching ten to make the math work.  Once the Mets get rolling I will watch three hours of live.  Never five.  (Well maybe an NFL Sunday….)

Conversely, I am surprised that time shifted TV is only 32 minutes.  I watch everything time shifted.  I don’t start The Walking Dead until 9:20.  I can’t sit through a commercial.  My thumb needs to skip 30 seconds.  Eight times in a row.  I watch an hour, maybe 90 minutes a day of TV of any kind, then I am known to pass out on the couch.

Hooray for radio hanging in there at 2:46.  Unresearched I will guess that people’s commutes are getting longer than even the last studies showed (25 minutes average US, with longer ones in the fairly obvious metroplexes).

Eleven hours.  Is your content available for all eleven?  Or are you a “radio” company without good social media, without a good app, without an actual mobile site designed for mobile?  ESPN gets it – you can interact with them all day long on every device.  Wanna read?  Bingo ESPN.com.  Wanna read local?  ESPN New York LA Dallas Boston.  Wanna listen?  App.  Wanna watch?  TV.  Wanna watch differently?  App.

What a fun time to be part of all this, even if this week it is from the basement

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Your five year mission

true detective

You tell me detective – what happens in five years?

 

Yesterday I told you about my class at FDU and how we’d be diving into the Infinite Dial study.  I continue to find it fascinating to walk through these studies with actual 18-22’s in front of me.

I asked who was 20 and some hands went up.  And then I asked them how old they would be in five years.

 

 

Now tell me detective, can you tell me what happens to the red box in the middle (below) in five years?

listened to online last week

That fancy metal tower in the swamp is nice, and it’s valuable and will continue to be….but what’s your online presence like?

What happens when I get in my 2019 Honda Civic and I have this?

car play

Are you building your online presence now or waiting until that far-off year of 2019?

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The kids like free

If you haven’t had a chance yet to dive in on The Infinite Dial study you really should.

It’s Monday, and on Monday I teach at Fairleigh Dickinson.  Tonight’s class will have two major sections.  In the first, the homework was to tell me what you would do if you were the PD at WOR.  John Gambling is gone, Elliott is gone, Scott Shannon isn’t available…so now what.  I will reveal my answer to them tonight and I’m curious to see what they come up with.  Last week’s initial discussions create some interesting names….Rudy Giuliani (but does he want to get up at 4am), or former Mets pitcher Al Leiter (we recalled him dabbling in politics.  Would he be good?  I decided worth a Friday try out with a traffic cop sitting next to him.)  But neither is my choice.  Call me and I will tell you.

The second part of the class will be The Infinite Dial study. A few eye popping slides…

36% listened to on-line radio last week!  94 million!

Slide 12:  75% are OK with commercials.  I’m telling you these kids like free.  And then I tell them people like me need to be paid.  If they are OK with commercials, then maybe “free” will be the future not subscription.   And see slide 14 about how folks react to those commercials.

Slide 13: online sounds better.

Slide 21: folks use iHeart to listen to the local stations.  The ones they know.

I’m looking forward to hearing what the college kids say about this tonight.  I will let you know.

I’ll leave you with this.  Pay attention to those phones folks.  An hour a day on apps.  How is your station/company app?  Are you on the big aggregators?

apps rule

 

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The Infinite Dial

Apple Car Play

Before we get to the Infinite Dial a few things about this blog.

During my time working with Comedy Central I got to know Rob O’Neill who is VP Programming and Promotion Strategy over there, a really great guy, smart, and has been inspirational.

We went to lunch and Rob suggested that I consider this blog.  Maybe declare myself a “media strategist” or such given that I have 21 years in the field and am also teaching at Fairleigh Dickinson.

It stuck with me.  The college classes “force” me to prep every week, so I stay more focused on actual studies and surveys than maybe some of us do because of our busy lives and our focus on the “now.”  Toward the end of the week I will go through all the trades and see what’s up, and I usually teach the class off the top of my head using the weekly items as the template.  So far it has worked.

So why not share this with the world?  Well there’s that fear of not wanting to tick anyone off or be the know it all guy…but then Rob told me about this book…

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Now I’m not saying this was a life changing thing or that I have become a disciple, but after the first few chapters and some staring at the ceiling at 3am I decided that Rob was right.  Let’s start the blog.

I have been blogging for six years now over at Mets Police under my alter-ego.  I started that site to keep my New Media skills sharp.  I do not want to wind up a dinosaur in the 2020’s who knows how to do that thing we used to do back in 1992.  So it keeps me sharp…I have a feel for what works on Facebook, twitter, getting site traffic…when and what to post….and how to present it.  If you pop over there you’ll see it’s written in a snarkier style than you are going to find over here.  Anyways, I have been blogging….

…which leads us to today.

I knocked out a few chapters of the book last night and two things really stuck with me.

1.  Start now.  I could think about someday starting this blog.  Or I could start today.  I started today.  There was a time when I couldn’t run a mile…last November I completed the NYC Marathon.

2.  I hate sucking.  The book calls it “escape average” but the phrase I used to use with my SiriusXM staff was “I hate sucking.”  I think when the Raw Dog channel was at its best was when we just did what we thought was cool not what everyone else would do.

I resisted for years doing anything Christmas themed?  Why?  Because every radio station in the world does Christmas on Christmas.  I wanted my channel to be in “normal mode.”  I would be confused when I would drive around on Christmas Day and pop on WABC and hear a Disney Special (ownership, clear the special in NYC, nobody listening anyway…yeah I get it.)  If it were me I’d show up on January 3rd and tell my producers you have 11 months to pre-tape a show to run that day.  (We’ll argue about if we should be live and the morale benefit vs. audience of that in some future post).

So Raw Dog traditionally did nothing.  Regular format, no imaging.  Cool.  Were you really going to pick the uncensored comedy channel on the way to Grandmas because we had jingle bells bumpers?  I’d rather be cool than have a Christmas special because you’re supposed to.

OK on to the Infinite Dial…..

I still need to go through this one and really study it, but as an overview it screams at me that The Connected Car Is Coming.

I stand in front of 18-22 year olds every Monday.  Listen to me…

THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR RADIO STATION.

They like Pandora.  They will check out iHeart/iTunes/Beats/Spotify/TuneIn etc but whether it makes us sad or not my focus group of twenty tells me they like Pandora.  It just works and it is free.

They don’t care about the heritage DJ.  They don’t care about call letters.  They don’t want to give you $15.

Sure, these are 18-22 so they haven’t entered the workforce yet.  Let’s check back in with them in seven years when they have a 45 minute commute and some disposable income.

Oh but wait…in seven years they might have this..

Apple Car Play

Those 12,000 songs they already have?  Look at the nice red button.

Or imagine a similar button that says Pandora or whatever the hot service is in 2020.

2020 is coming.  It is as far away as 2008 is.

So what will win out?  Content.  Have the best stuff coming out of those speakers.  Their Lady Gaga record will be just as good as your Lady Gaga record.

These guys are smart. They will have buttons.

These guys are smart. They will have buttons.

We’ll dive in on content in upcoming posts…and that’s how I make a living…did I mention I need a new gig?

Check out my portfolio on the main page and poke around for some of the cool stuff I did these past ten years.

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